The measures people take to be discreet not only undermine the ease of breastfeeding but also do the exact opposite and draw attention to them…there are so many times that I nurse and people don’t even realize… I don’t have nursing clothes or blankets all I have is a baby and it is the perfect camouflage…
Of course the discreet card is often played with the vulgar card (whip them out, compare to peeing in public etc..) And when people talk about the chance that kids might see it… I say GOOD! maybe we will be able to save some of the next generations from such a skewed sense of what is natural… My kids know exactly what breasts are for and they have no shame.
The absolute worst is when it’s another breastfeeding mother. I actually got into an argumant with another breastfeeding mother who was nappalled that I was nurding in public. I aksed her what she did when she was out and her baby got hungry. Her reply? ” I don’t feed my baby in public. I make damn sure that I won’t be gone long enough for her to GET hungry. And if she does, well then, she just has to learn patience by waiting til we get home.”
Because those silicone nipples are so discreet….!
If someone mentions the peeing/pooing in public – point out that its not the same and that no one is going around emptying colostomy/urine bags in public. But those silicone nipples are right there fore everyone to see.
It’s not discretion so much as the few who ruin it for the REST of us by OVER exposing! You know the gal I’m talking about. What not to Wear would eat her for lunch! Spandex top 2 sizes to small. Entire boob popped out over the TOP because the top is so small & tight her belly pops out from the bottom. AND she’s in church! Or at a convention! Yeah Stick Stacy & Clinton after this Mama. cuz in the end it actually has NOTHING to DO with feeding her baby & EVERYTHING to do with wearing something inappropriate. YES it’s so much easier without the burka (err I mean blanket) but if that gives someone confidence then great. Personally I’m bothered by watching my baby sweat. Or everyone on the bus having to hear by baby fuss while I get situated. that’s discretion to me anyways. I’d rather Nurse in public in a T-shirt then wear a swim suit, lol!
Lori, true some people are bothered by it cuz “It’s a body fluid” but when a gal pointed out to me yesterday that my babe ralphed on me I just nonchalantly cleaned it up. She asked why I wasn’t bothered by it. Basically cuz it’s me anyways, lol! Driver of the bus burst out laughing! Guess after 4 children it’s easier to accept it & to thank my baby for sharing then it is to worry over it!
Anastasia, you’re right about those nursing who would end up on People of Walmart by their dress even if they were *not* nursing. They’re already way over the top, and then when they go “over the top” in how they breastfeed, that it muddies the water for observers. Know what I mean?
Not that I’m in favor of burka-blankets for breastfeeding. I’m strenuously against them! When my oldest was born, vests were still in fashion, and my best nursing gear was a nursing bra, t-shirt and vest. The vest covered my sides, which were kind of saggy with extra weight anyhow. And it made it pretty darned hard for the uninitiated to know what I was doing.
On other sites when this issue pops up, and everyone gets on two sides of it, I saw once one Mama put it that it is OPPRESSION for ANYONE TO TELL ANOTHER HOW TO DO THINGS, whether it be how they should breastfeed, or what they should wear, etc.
I always get a kick out of the stories from an American Mama in the Middle East area telling of how the breastfeeding Mothers are all in a room taking care of their babies and talking, that if a man should enter the room, all the Mamas hurry to cover their heads BUT STILL LEAVE BREASTS EXPOSED! Bad for a man that is not your husband to see your uncovered head, but by all means, keep nursing!
Interestingly, I lived in the Middle East for a few years and I breastfed in public with no problems. My babies all hated having blankets over their heads (who could blame them?), so after the first child, I stopped using them at all. I agree with what Catriona said–I just don’t ask for permission. I’ve never, ever had a single problem. Now I live in Ecuador where women breastfeed pretty much constantly with NO thought to any notion of “discretion.” It’s so commonplace here that nobody bats an eye at all. Wish it were the same in the States.
personally, i have no problem with a “what not to wear”/”people of walmart”-ly dressed woman nursing over the top. seriously, i have no issue with it.
having been to africa where wealthy city women where elaborate costume to church, then undo said costume and basically nurse topless in church, it’s seriously NOT at issue. it’s only at issue within the minds of those men and women who take issue with it.
so, let me be honest. those women do not ruin anything for anyone by ‘exposing too much.’ i’m sorry, but it simply cannot be done. if the breast needs to be fully out for the baby’s comfort, then so be it. that is breastfeeding.
that’s cute! I do have to say though..I really wish people just wouldn’t judge a BFing moms choice period! Sometimes I feel more comfortable covered, sometimes I am fine not having a cover. sometimes my baby does better covered sometimes he doesn’t. It is all about what makes you & baby more comfortable to BF. AT LEAST WE ARE BFing!!
I love this! It puts into words how I feel when people say that damn discreet line!
I just don’t ask if it’s alright to breastfeed in public, and then no one tells me to be discreet!
The measures people take to be discreet not only undermine the ease of breastfeeding but also do the exact opposite and draw attention to them…there are so many times that I nurse and people don’t even realize… I don’t have nursing clothes or blankets all I have is a baby and it is the perfect camouflage…
Of course the discreet card is often played with the vulgar card (whip them out, compare to peeing in public etc..) And when people talk about the chance that kids might see it… I say GOOD! maybe we will be able to save some of the next generations from such a skewed sense of what is natural… My kids know exactly what breasts are for and they have no shame.
The worst is when it’s other women, and other MOTHERS, who say that.
The absolute worst is when it’s another breastfeeding mother. I actually got into an argumant with another breastfeeding mother who was nappalled that I was nurding in public. I aksed her what she did when she was out and her baby got hungry. Her reply? ” I don’t feed my baby in public. I make damn sure that I won’t be gone long enough for her to GET hungry. And if she does, well then, she just has to learn patience by waiting til we get home.”
Isn’t that disgusting?
Oops, that should day, “appalled” without the “n”.
OMG, my fingers are dyslexic this morning. I apologize for ALL the typoes.
Because those silicone nipples are so discreet….!
If someone mentions the peeing/pooing in public – point out that its not the same and that no one is going around emptying colostomy/urine bags in public. But those silicone nipples are right there fore everyone to see.
It’s not discretion so much as the few who ruin it for the REST of us by OVER exposing! You know the gal I’m talking about. What not to Wear would eat her for lunch! Spandex top 2 sizes to small. Entire boob popped out over the TOP because the top is so small & tight her belly pops out from the bottom. AND she’s in church! Or at a convention! Yeah Stick Stacy & Clinton after this Mama. cuz in the end it actually has NOTHING to DO with feeding her baby & EVERYTHING to do with wearing something inappropriate. YES it’s so much easier without the burka (err I mean blanket) but if that gives someone confidence then great. Personally I’m bothered by watching my baby sweat. Or everyone on the bus having to hear by baby fuss while I get situated. that’s discretion to me anyways. I’d rather Nurse in public in a T-shirt then wear a swim suit, lol!
Lori, true some people are bothered by it cuz “It’s a body fluid” but when a gal pointed out to me yesterday that my babe ralphed on me I just nonchalantly cleaned it up. She asked why I wasn’t bothered by it. Basically cuz it’s me anyways, lol! Driver of the bus burst out laughing! Guess after 4 children it’s easier to accept it & to thank my baby for sharing then it is to worry over it!
Anastasia, you’re right about those nursing who would end up on People of Walmart by their dress even if they were *not* nursing. They’re already way over the top, and then when they go “over the top” in how they breastfeed, that it muddies the water for observers. Know what I mean?
Not that I’m in favor of burka-blankets for breastfeeding. I’m strenuously against them! When my oldest was born, vests were still in fashion, and my best nursing gear was a nursing bra, t-shirt and vest. The vest covered my sides, which were kind of saggy with extra weight anyhow. And it made it pretty darned hard for the uninitiated to know what I was doing.
WOOOO HOOO I love it!
On other sites when this issue pops up, and everyone gets on two sides of it, I saw once one Mama put it that it is OPPRESSION for ANYONE TO TELL ANOTHER HOW TO DO THINGS, whether it be how they should breastfeed, or what they should wear, etc.
I always get a kick out of the stories from an American Mama in the Middle East area telling of how the breastfeeding Mothers are all in a room taking care of their babies and talking, that if a man should enter the room, all the Mamas hurry to cover their heads BUT STILL LEAVE BREASTS EXPOSED! Bad for a man that is not your husband to see your uncovered head, but by all means, keep nursing!
@Mama Eva:
That is exactly how nursing in middle eastern families/cultures is! It makes me smile!
Interestingly, I lived in the Middle East for a few years and I breastfed in public with no problems. My babies all hated having blankets over their heads (who could blame them?), so after the first child, I stopped using them at all. I agree with what Catriona said–I just don’t ask for permission. I’ve never, ever had a single problem. Now I live in Ecuador where women breastfeed pretty much constantly with NO thought to any notion of “discretion.” It’s so commonplace here that nobody bats an eye at all. Wish it were the same in the States.
personally, i have no problem with a “what not to wear”/”people of walmart”-ly dressed woman nursing over the top. seriously, i have no issue with it.
having been to africa where wealthy city women where elaborate costume to church, then undo said costume and basically nurse topless in church, it’s seriously NOT at issue. it’s only at issue within the minds of those men and women who take issue with it.
so, let me be honest. those women do not ruin anything for anyone by ‘exposing too much.’ i’m sorry, but it simply cannot be done. if the breast needs to be fully out for the baby’s comfort, then so be it. that is breastfeeding.
observers need to get over themselves.
that’s cute! I do have to say though..I really wish people just wouldn’t judge a BFing moms choice period! Sometimes I feel more comfortable covered, sometimes I am fine not having a cover. sometimes my baby does better covered sometimes he doesn’t. It is all about what makes you & baby more comfortable to BF. AT LEAST WE ARE BFing!!