I must admit that when I heard this story my first reaction was, wouldn’t it be cool if that would work? I really didn’t understand the outrage, like you said, it’s just an opinion. It’s not like she’s actually in any law making position, so who cares!?
Frankly, I took it to mean that she is saying that breastfeeding is so good for the baby and the mother that everyone should try it, for at least 6 months. Not a week or so and give up, go for 6 months, at that time your baby has at least a fighting chance in this world and you also get that great bonding time (bonus: helps your body get back to pre-pregnancy). If there is a history of sexual abuse, then counseling/therapy would be a great start (first hand experience, me and all 3 of my sisters breastfed our children. it can be done, I promise), so it’s not an excuse.
I really believe the only women who have a good reason for not nursing/breastfeeding their children are few: Cleft plate, allergens to mother’s milk proteins, serious medications, Insufficient Glandular Tissue and issues of the like, not because you “feel weirded having a [your] baby drink milk from your breast” or you “don’t want to loose your breasts to nursing” . Also, all of those reasons have exceptions to the rule, you still can even with those issues.
And just like the rest of us, yes, she *is* entitles to her opinion.
Anyway, that’s *my* two cents, thanks for letting me comment. This is the first positive/neutral reaction I have seen or heard to Gisele’s comment, aside from my own.
What got me about this was that the main objection seemed to be ‘so you’re gonna put me in jail because I adopted/had no milk/needed to take drugs incompatible with breastfeeding or I’d DIE’ etc, etc. I mean, if someone said that there should be a law that all kids should get to run around instead of being in front of the TV all day, would the parents with kids in wheelchairs get upset?
Here’s another who found Nursing to be the PERFECT therapy to get over her rotten childhood. I may not be perfect but my baby’s LUNCH always is, lol! But in all honesty I found another article (somewhere) that said it was the PRESS doing a “Lost in Translation” & blowing her words out of proportion! Which we ALL know they do to sell, sell, sell! & There ARE laws in some places where formula & bottles are Behind the counter (Where the cough medicine is now) because those places want healthy people! I guess we’re all in agreement when I say the worst excuse I’ve ever heard was “Because I didn’t feel like it”! You’re a MOM there is a TON of things I don’t FEEL like doing but I have to………..par for the course.
I loved what she said, not to mention that she is one of the few famous mama’s that shared her natural birth experience. I know it was taken out of context though, I think she was just trying to make a point not really make a law. Its about time that culturally the “taboo” shifts from nursing to bottle feeding, I know I cannot stand to see a baby being bottle fed, creeps me out. How would those bottle feeding moms feel if they felt pressure to serve it up in the women’s restroom *gasp*! And of course like the other poster I do not mean people who actually cannot nurse, like my friend who had to have Chemo for breast cancer when her baby was a newborn.
I am all for creating awareness, and if that means that people have to be shocked or outraged, let’s have it. Technically though, it can be a hard nut to crack. Indonesia made not breastfeeding illegal
Isn’t our culture overestimating the freedom of choice thing? Where’s the infant’s choice in all that. If you want to talk freedom, that surely has to be included http://www.authenticparenting.info/2010/08/freedom-of-choice-to-what-extent.html
<3 i love all of these responses. it is so nice to read.
yes there are situations that breast feeding isn't going to be possible, BUT those are not the norm. and alot of the situations (like low supply) you can still nurse and use one of those (i think they are called) lact-aid devices that lets the baby nurse at the breast and at the same time gives them either pumped milk, donor milk or formula. i think that is amazing and wonderful and i wish that was pushed more for moms with low supply then just saying "give them formula".
as for the whole idea of having saggy breasts as a reason not to nurse... it isn't the breastfeeding it is the pregnancy and eventually... NATURE! they do begin to sag even if you never have kids or nurse. i have taken care of older ladies who never did either and their breasts are hanging low! lol
anyway.. i think once again it is the media trying to divert our attention for the serious problems of the world so that we argue over silly stuff. UGH!
Heather hawkes, wow just IMAGINE if you could buy a SNS in any store on the shelf! Can you IMAGINE what would change if THAT were there instead of the bottles?!
Should women have the right to make a choice? Sure. We can also choose to smoke. But society has a right to look at us agahast and use peer pressure to make us feel that smoking is a bad choice.
Personally I think formula should be a prescription item and only the hydrolyzed ($800 a month) should be available to children under 6 months of age.
How quick would things change if “choosing” formula was an $800 a month investment?
Plus us WAHMs could sell our product to those who can’t find “time” to make their own.
A baby’s intolerance of mother’s milk protein is not a valid reason not to nurse, IMO. I couldn’t eat any cow or chicken product, any soy product, eggs or nuts for 4.5 months because my baby couldn’t tolerate the proteins. I haven’t had milk in 8.5 months (milk is my favorite drink). It sucked but I knew that that was what was best for my baby. Not to mention that the only formula that would have worked for my baby was hundreds of dollars a month. There are so many sacrifices you have to make as a mother, my food was just another one. I’d rather eat just veggies than have my baby up all night screaming and pooping blood. Giselle definitely had the right idea but you can’t expect the world to take a supermodel seriously, even if it is a bad stereotype.
Lori, the “by prescription only” part I would be fine with. But for those of us who CANNOT beastfeed, don’t you think it’s a little harsh to demand we pay $800/month? I did NOT choose not to breastfeed my children for at least 6 months. Had I been able to choose, I would have breatfed for at least 3 years for each of them.
Not breastfeeding is not a choice for many women (most who formula feed, yes, but not all). Please have a little empathy for those of us who can’t.
What about moms who have to go back to work ASAP? We aren’t all wealthy super models, or well off or even financially stable in these hard times. Pumping is NOT natural, sometimes painful, and not always doable at all places of work, despite laws. A lot of your opinions come from upper-middle class mentality that all women have the privilege of staying home with their babies. There are POOR people out there that due to this country’s bs unpaid maternity leave or worse, jobs that offer no time off (think people without a green card) that they do not have the choice to breastfeed. Not getting breast milk is the least of some families’ concerns. POVERTY means worrying about putting food on the table, shelter, abuse, addiction, and you don’t have to be in poverty to be forced to go back to work these days with the economy the way it is.
A law like Giselle proposed and we might as well be in Nazi Germany circa 1938. What is next? Forced baby wearing? I have a terrible fear of falling since breaking my leg while pregnant. Jail for me? Forced communal breastfeeding like they do in other parts of the world? I’ll bf your baby and you bf mine OR ELSE? Oh, my baby thanks you for the hepatitis/HIV/etc. by the way… Outlawing of breast pumps? THAT BABY SHOULD and WILL BE ON YOUR NIPPLE, NOT A BOTTLE’S! Let me stop. Get out of your elitist, sanctimonious bubbles and look at the world around you. You come off as a bunch of spoiled trust fund babies.
And before you jump down my throat, I DO breastfeed… going on 11 months now with no plans to stop any time soon. And I do believe it is best for the baby. I just have this thing called empathy and the ability to see beyond my four walls….
I must admit that when I heard this story my first reaction was, wouldn’t it be cool if that would work? I really didn’t understand the outrage, like you said, it’s just an opinion. It’s not like she’s actually in any law making position, so who cares!?
Frankly, I took it to mean that she is saying that breastfeeding is so good for the baby and the mother that everyone should try it, for at least 6 months. Not a week or so and give up, go for 6 months, at that time your baby has at least a fighting chance in this world and you also get that great bonding time (bonus: helps your body get back to pre-pregnancy). If there is a history of sexual abuse, then counseling/therapy would be a great start (first hand experience, me and all 3 of my sisters breastfed our children. it can be done, I promise), so it’s not an excuse.
I really believe the only women who have a good reason for not nursing/breastfeeding their children are few: Cleft plate, allergens to mother’s milk proteins, serious medications, Insufficient Glandular Tissue and issues of the like, not because you “feel weirded having a [your] baby drink milk from your breast” or you “don’t want to loose your breasts to nursing” . Also, all of those reasons have exceptions to the rule, you still can even with those issues.
And just like the rest of us, yes, she *is* entitles to her opinion.
Anyway, that’s *my* two cents, thanks for letting me comment. This is the first positive/neutral reaction I have seen or heard to Gisele’s comment, aside from my own.
What got me about this was that the main objection seemed to be ‘so you’re gonna put me in jail because I adopted/had no milk/needed to take drugs incompatible with breastfeeding or I’d DIE’ etc, etc. I mean, if someone said that there should be a law that all kids should get to run around instead of being in front of the TV all day, would the parents with kids in wheelchairs get upset?
Here’s another who found Nursing to be the PERFECT therapy to get over her rotten childhood. I may not be perfect but my baby’s LUNCH always is, lol! But in all honesty I found another article (somewhere) that said it was the PRESS doing a “Lost in Translation” & blowing her words out of proportion! Which we ALL know they do to sell, sell, sell! & There ARE laws in some places where formula & bottles are Behind the counter (Where the cough medicine is now) because those places want healthy people! I guess we’re all in agreement when I say the worst excuse I’ve ever heard was “Because I didn’t feel like it”! You’re a MOM there is a TON of things I don’t FEEL like doing but I have to………..par for the course.
I loved what she said, not to mention that she is one of the few famous mama’s that shared her natural birth experience. I know it was taken out of context though, I think she was just trying to make a point not really make a law. Its about time that culturally the “taboo” shifts from nursing to bottle feeding, I know I cannot stand to see a baby being bottle fed, creeps me out. How would those bottle feeding moms feel if they felt pressure to serve it up in the women’s restroom *gasp*! And of course like the other poster I do not mean people who actually cannot nurse, like my friend who had to have Chemo for breast cancer when her baby was a newborn.
Go Gisele! Proud of you
You people rock! I love these responses
I am all for creating awareness, and if that means that people have to be shocked or outraged, let’s have it. Technically though, it can be a hard nut to crack. Indonesia made not breastfeeding illegal
Isn’t our culture overestimating the freedom of choice thing? Where’s the infant’s choice in all that. If you want to talk freedom, that surely has to be included
http://www.authenticparenting.info/2010/08/freedom-of-choice-to-what-extent.html
<3 i love all of these responses. it is so nice to read.
yes there are situations that breast feeding isn't going to be possible, BUT those are not the norm. and alot of the situations (like low supply) you can still nurse and use one of those (i think they are called) lact-aid devices that lets the baby nurse at the breast and at the same time gives them either pumped milk, donor milk or formula. i think that is amazing and wonderful and i wish that was pushed more for moms with low supply then just saying "give them formula".
as for the whole idea of having saggy breasts as a reason not to nurse... it isn't the breastfeeding it is the pregnancy and eventually... NATURE! they do begin to sag even if you never have kids or nurse. i have taken care of older ladies who never did either and their breasts are hanging low! lol
anyway.. i think once again it is the media trying to divert our attention for the serious problems of the world so that we argue over silly stuff. UGH!
heather in tempe
Heather hawkes, wow just IMAGINE if you could buy a SNS in any store on the shelf! Can you IMAGINE what would change if THAT were there instead of the bottles?!
Should women have the right to make a choice? Sure. We can also choose to smoke. But society has a right to look at us agahast and use peer pressure to make us feel that smoking is a bad choice.
Personally I think formula should be a prescription item and only the hydrolyzed ($800 a month) should be available to children under 6 months of age.
How quick would things change if “choosing” formula was an $800 a month investment?
Plus us WAHMs could sell our product to those who can’t find “time” to make their own.
A baby’s intolerance of mother’s milk protein is not a valid reason not to nurse, IMO. I couldn’t eat any cow or chicken product, any soy product, eggs or nuts for 4.5 months because my baby couldn’t tolerate the proteins. I haven’t had milk in 8.5 months (milk is my favorite drink). It sucked but I knew that that was what was best for my baby. Not to mention that the only formula that would have worked for my baby was hundreds of dollars a month. There are so many sacrifices you have to make as a mother, my food was just another one. I’d rather eat just veggies than have my baby up all night screaming and pooping blood. Giselle definitely had the right idea but you can’t expect the world to take a supermodel seriously, even if it is a bad stereotype.
Lori, the “by prescription only” part I would be fine with. But for those of us who CANNOT beastfeed, don’t you think it’s a little harsh to demand we pay $800/month? I did NOT choose not to breastfeed my children for at least 6 months. Had I been able to choose, I would have breatfed for at least 3 years for each of them.
Not breastfeeding is not a choice for many women (most who formula feed, yes, but not all). Please have a little empathy for those of us who can’t.
What about moms who have to go back to work ASAP? We aren’t all wealthy super models, or well off or even financially stable in these hard times. Pumping is NOT natural, sometimes painful, and not always doable at all places of work, despite laws. A lot of your opinions come from upper-middle class mentality that all women have the privilege of staying home with their babies. There are POOR people out there that due to this country’s bs unpaid maternity leave or worse, jobs that offer no time off (think people without a green card) that they do not have the choice to breastfeed. Not getting breast milk is the least of some families’ concerns. POVERTY means worrying about putting food on the table, shelter, abuse, addiction, and you don’t have to be in poverty to be forced to go back to work these days with the economy the way it is.
A law like Giselle proposed and we might as well be in Nazi Germany circa 1938. What is next? Forced baby wearing? I have a terrible fear of falling since breaking my leg while pregnant. Jail for me? Forced communal breastfeeding like they do in other parts of the world? I’ll bf your baby and you bf mine OR ELSE? Oh, my baby thanks you for the hepatitis/HIV/etc. by the way… Outlawing of breast pumps? THAT BABY SHOULD and WILL BE ON YOUR NIPPLE, NOT A BOTTLE’S! Let me stop. Get out of your elitist, sanctimonious bubbles and look at the world around you. You come off as a bunch of spoiled trust fund babies.
And before you jump down my throat, I DO breastfeed… going on 11 months now with no plans to stop any time soon. And I do believe it is best for the baby. I just have this thing called empathy and the ability to see beyond my four walls….