People always claim that we/you are “fighting your own” when there are normal disagreements among people who happen to share a few beliefs.
This however is really fighting your own. If the IBLCE can’t be breastfeeding friendly how can we ask anyone else to be? How can an IBLCE attempt to mediate a dispute with an employer knowing that the IBLCE examiner’s board is doing this? How can an IBLCE really say that a convenience bottle is bad when the IBLCE examiner’s board did this? How can an IBLCE say its ridiculous to tell mom to use a bottle and pump and dump for 12-24 hours after surgery/diagnostic tests using contrast/whatever when a mom was asked to use a bottle for a mere exam?
Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is the perfect visual representation. I can almost GUARANTEE you that if it didn’t have anything to do with breastfeeding, this would NOT be an issue. I have a friend with special needs who was granted extra time for many timed tests (including the SATs). I bet that she would have no problem gaining extra time on this test, but a breastfeeding mother? Hmm.
I smell a double standard here! The only time mine really gets to crying is when she’s having a bad day (in pain or coming down with something) Something like that I’d either reschedule or not bring her with me if I couldn’t. But normally she grunts & sniffles & I know it’s time to nurse her quick. If you’re talking a more active babe, I dunno it would depend on the child. A mother’s discretion should be valued. (Wish so many didn’t blow it though)
Love it! I really am stunned at IBCLE’s actions. I’ve taken my breastfeeding babies with me everywhere except the GRE exams. I’ve seen eyes blink, but no one said anything, particularly after they saw how calm and content my babies were.
Makes me wonder if it’s all just lip service for IBCLE.
This is perfect!!
I really am surprised that they did this. NARM makes a way for breastfeeding moms to take their midwifery exams, IBCLE should definitely be doing the same.
That is so perfect! not only does it make sense for that exam… but really, any exam with any university. Unless there are things like laboratory settings to be concerned about, I don’t see why an infant who isn’t crawling around or needing anything other than their mother should not be just as the first picture showed… right there, in the sling/wrap/pouch.
I’m sure some might say… “oh, she could just pump”… but it’s not always so cut and dry, especially when baby is so new and nursing so often.
On a completely unrelated note, because I couldn’t figure out how to contact you, Heather. You must read these birth stories.
They completely bowled me over … so much so that I wonder if they are true. But why post fake birth stories? Holy crap. A woman who was 18 when she got married and pregnant automatically opted for unassisted birth and had twin boys outside. Then she got pregnant again and had triplets outside. All of these facts together, along with other facts that are in her stories, are so rare that together they have a stunning effect… In addition, the mother has just the simple, “matter-of-fact” attitude toward birth that you were going for with Simply Give Birth.
From the pdf Karen posted: “Ahead of time, the exam candidate must work out a schedule that informs the proctor and the person caring for her baby of the time(s) she will be taking the approved break. It is the
responsibility of the baby’s care-provider to bring the baby to the pre-determined break location. The exam candidate will not be permitted to use a cell phone to call the care-provider. The exam candidate will be expected to schedule at least one break per exam session—one in the morning and one in the afternoon.”
This just sounds like they don’t understand breastfeeding. With all these rules, it just makes more sense to leave baby with a bottle and pacifier. What if baby doesn’t need to nurse during the scheduled time? What if baby starts falling asleep at the breast?
We had a two hour drive home last month and it took us three and a half hours to get home because baby wanted to nurse. I thought he was finished when he drifted off to sleep and fell off the nipple. A few minutes back on the road and he was awake, wanting to finish nursing. We tried driving a little more but he meant business so we pulled over again. My husband and daughter were super patient.
How do you plan for that kind of thing? Mom is either available or she’s not. With these test “accommodations,” mom isn’t really available. I think I could deal with that. There are times when a mother must, or chooses to, be unavailable for the sake of her career or some other circumstance. But for me these accommodations are kind of pointless. Seems better to just hurry up and finish the test and allow the sitter or whoever to sooth baby in other ways. But if IBLCE came right out and said that, they’d look like hypocrites. Oh, but wait. They kind of do anyway.
Wow, I am shocked at IBLCE statement. This is the board that is supposed to be promoting education on breastfeeding, yet they won’t make allowances for testees (I mean reasonable allowances, like bringing in 6-month and under infants to the test and allowing mothers who must leave the room with the proctor to be able to make up the time.) This certainly undercuts their credibility.
I love it! PS Congrats on the mention in Motherload!
HAHAHAHA!!!
People always claim that we/you are “fighting your own” when there are normal disagreements among people who happen to share a few beliefs.
This however is really fighting your own. If the IBLCE can’t be breastfeeding friendly how can we ask anyone else to be? How can an IBLCE attempt to mediate a dispute with an employer knowing that the IBLCE examiner’s board is doing this? How can an IBLCE really say that a convenience bottle is bad when the IBLCE examiner’s board did this? How can an IBLCE say its ridiculous to tell mom to use a bottle and pump and dump for 12-24 hours after surgery/diagnostic tests using contrast/whatever when a mom was asked to use a bottle for a mere exam?
Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is the perfect visual representation. I can almost GUARANTEE you that if it didn’t have anything to do with breastfeeding, this would NOT be an issue. I have a friend with special needs who was granted extra time for many timed tests (including the SATs). I bet that she would have no problem gaining extra time on this test, but a breastfeeding mother? Hmm.
I smell a double standard here! The only time mine really gets to crying is when she’s having a bad day (in pain or coming down with something) Something like that I’d either reschedule or not bring her with me if I couldn’t. But normally she grunts & sniffles & I know it’s time to nurse her quick. If you’re talking a more active babe, I dunno it would depend on the child. A mother’s discretion should be valued. (Wish so many didn’t blow it though)
Love it! I really am stunned at IBCLE’s actions. I’ve taken my breastfeeding babies with me everywhere except the GRE exams. I’ve seen eyes blink, but no one said anything, particularly after they saw how calm and content my babies were.
Makes me wonder if it’s all just lip service for IBCLE.
This is perfect!!
I really am surprised that they did this. NARM makes a way for breastfeeding moms to take their midwifery exams, IBCLE should definitely be doing the same.
That is so perfect! not only does it make sense for that exam… but really, any exam with any university. Unless there are things like laboratory settings to be concerned about, I don’t see why an infant who isn’t crawling around or needing anything other than their mother should not be just as the first picture showed… right there, in the sling/wrap/pouch.
I’m sure some might say… “oh, she could just pump”… but it’s not always so cut and dry, especially when baby is so new and nursing so often.
Please read and note the date of this formal statement from IBLCE, the organization that develops and administers this exam: http://americas.iblce.org/upload/BreastfeedingBreaks_AMSprocedure.pdf
Karen
Totally agree with mysticeye….
On a completely unrelated note, because I couldn’t figure out how to contact you, Heather. You must read these birth stories.
They completely bowled me over … so much so that I wonder if they are true. But why post fake birth stories? Holy crap. A woman who was 18 when she got married and pregnant automatically opted for unassisted birth and had twin boys outside. Then she got pregnant again and had triplets outside. All of these facts together, along with other facts that are in her stories, are so rare that together they have a stunning effect… In addition, the mother has just the simple, “matter-of-fact” attitude toward birth that you were going for with Simply Give Birth.
http://www.birthstories.com/stories/alternative/big-twins-born-in-the-great-outdoors-2412/
http://www.birthstories.com/stories/multiples/second-story-third-baby-2444/
From the pdf Karen posted: “Ahead of time, the exam candidate must work out a schedule that informs the proctor and the person caring for her baby of the time(s) she will be taking the approved break. It is the
responsibility of the baby’s care-provider to bring the baby to the pre-determined break location. The exam candidate will not be permitted to use a cell phone to call the care-provider. The exam candidate will be expected to schedule at least one break per exam session—one in the morning and one in the afternoon.”
This just sounds like they don’t understand breastfeeding. With all these rules, it just makes more sense to leave baby with a bottle and pacifier. What if baby doesn’t need to nurse during the scheduled time? What if baby starts falling asleep at the breast?
We had a two hour drive home last month and it took us three and a half hours to get home because baby wanted to nurse. I thought he was finished when he drifted off to sleep and fell off the nipple. A few minutes back on the road and he was awake, wanting to finish nursing. We tried driving a little more but he meant business so we pulled over again. My husband and daughter were super patient.
How do you plan for that kind of thing? Mom is either available or she’s not. With these test “accommodations,” mom isn’t really available. I think I could deal with that. There are times when a mother must, or chooses to, be unavailable for the sake of her career or some other circumstance. But for me these accommodations are kind of pointless. Seems better to just hurry up and finish the test and allow the sitter or whoever to sooth baby in other ways. But if IBLCE came right out and said that, they’d look like hypocrites. Oh, but wait. They kind of do anyway.
Wow, I am shocked at IBLCE statement. This is the board that is supposed to be promoting education on breastfeeding, yet they won’t make allowances for testees (I mean reasonable allowances, like bringing in 6-month and under infants to the test and allowing mothers who must leave the room with the proctor to be able to make up the time.) This certainly undercuts their credibility.
WONDERFUL response to that ridiculous case of breastfeeding discrimination.